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Written by bobf   
Monday, 22 December 2008 20:36
With so many people loosing jobs that did pay in U.S. dollars, and so many companies going kaput because they can't borrow U.S. dollars why do you think that we are still only depending on the "Official Currency"? Why can't we seriously consider more local currency movements such as RHD's Equal Dollars? 

Sure they are difficult to launch - but lots of good things require a group of people who care for each other to come together and start something new that benefits all of them - now that's a promising approach! A Common Good Approach!
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Moving it forward
written by adahow, December 22, 2008
Are there any tax implications to alternative currencies? Scenario: Our investment arm lends a startup $1 million. As a condition of the investment the startup agrees to accept equal dollars for services or products. How is profit determined for tax purposes? And, how is the investment structured to allow for a buyout? It would be interesting to discuss how this kind of deal could be structured. Further, it would be really interesting to organize a group of =$ companies that could theoretically support one individual almost entirely by =$'s.

This to me seems like a future, but not distant future, next step in the evolution of the program. Identify an individual in the community. Define that individual's daily needs. Identify existing members able to meet those needs. Figure out a way to fill in the gaps. That would be a powerful way to bring others on board!
Manpower
written by adahow, December 22, 2008
Also, I'm curious about the current resources allocated to our alternative currency. This could be a culture altering program, but does it have the necessary resources to reach its potential?
Exchange
written by adahow, December 22, 2008
Last comment (I think). It strikes me that in order to make the test scenario work, the individual would need access to a currency exchange to pay for some needs that we just can't meet. But, beyond that, if we could take your idea from an earlier post of working with the city, then we could solve the potential problem of transportation if the city accepted =$'s for tokens and passes.
My 2 =cents...
written by Deneene Brockington, December 23, 2008
I've been following the recent articles and their respective comments about how Equal Dollars and other alternative/companion currency systems can offer bold and viable solutions during our present economic crisis. Finally my 2 cents…
Adahow, its nice to see that you are engaged in the possibilities of Equal Dollars. As I’ve followed you comments, I smile a bit to myself because my thinking is confirmed by some of your thoughts and/or questions. You propose an interesting possible next step in the process. Please join us at our =$s committee meetings. I agree that building the system from the perspective of creating =$s opportunities that meet the basic need of the individual is the way move forward. As a result, we or at least I have a new way of describing the system. Equal Dollars Community Currency System alleviates the need to solely rely on scarce US dollars as a means to obtain basic goods and services to live. Equal Dollars is a non-interest bearing currency; it does not create wealth but is rather designed to stimulate the exchange of goods and services within the community. When I first joined the community first as a member, then as program director, I asked myself, “What are the common denominator goods and services for individuals and businesses?” I came up with many of the same categories you did in your 12/15/08 article, “Alternative Forms of Currency”—food, prescriptions, clothing, day care for children, transportation, etc. And for businesses, the common denominators were office supplies and transportation/gas.

Where are we now? Our focus during the last six months or so has been primarily within the RHD community—getting RHD employees to establish new or reactivate their =$s accounts. This has been a more of a challenge than I originally anticipated (Even with being able to use up to 5=$ per prescription at SQA Pharmacy.) But even still, we are experiencing some small victories. We are trading from 700 – 1,500=$s per month. This means that each of our 140 or so members are saving $5 - $10/month US dollars by using 5 – 10 =$s per month. Theoretically each member has saved $15 - $30 since September. In these tough economic times, $30 US saved is significant. That’s my water bill for a month.

Where are we going? During these tough economic times I think we all agree that the possibilities for Equal Dollars are endless. Getting the City of Philadelphia to become a partner in the system would give the system instant value in the business community. With Metro are Philadelphia unemployment rate at 5.7% as reported by Bureau of Labor Statistics 12/3/2008 report, I also think =$s offers a unique for individuals to earn and/or get access to the currency by providing community service.
Equal Dollars Member
written by Bob Fishman, December 24, 2008
I certainly agree with Deneene's responses.
Adhow asked a few questions in his earlier comments and I note that:
Re Taxes: there are the same tax obligations for individuals and businesses = the same records are to be kept and taxes are to be paie (in U.S. dollars) to appropriate federal/state and local governments.

Re: Interest Free - however all loans are expected to be made interest free and therefore there is a huge saving to those trading and doing business in =$s. We are currently able to issue large loans (you refer to 1 Million) as long as we believe that the individual and/or businesses has the means to repay the principal on the loans in =$s. Any ideas?
Resources: we now have the resources to significantly expand the system and will consider increasing support of the system as trading increases.
City Acceptance: not yet, but obviously the ability to pay a portion of train passes, taxes, etc. in =$s would give us a Big shot in the arm and legitimize this system quickly
More on tax implications
written by adahow, December 24, 2008
Let's say that a person is living by =$s 100% of the time. How would/could this be reported on a 1099, for instance?
tax payer
written by Bob Fishman, December 24, 2008
I now get 30 =$s in each of my pay checks from RHD in lieu of U.S. $s. The corporation calculates the taxes due and deducts those u.s. dollars from the rest of the pay that I get in u.s. Dollars.

If we were so fortunate to get paid 100% in Equals, either we would have to get Barack to get the treasury to accept Equals for our tax obligations, or we would have to get some u.s. dollars from another source to pay the taxes. Boy would I love to have that problem to solve since it would mean that we could buy alomost everything we need with Equals.

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